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Offline torque

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[Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« on: Wed August 02, 2017, 10:28:51 PM »
I've recently had my home construction complete. As such the builder has completed a "final grade" and that is it. It is up to me to have a lawn put in. I plan on hiring a company to do this, however, based on research, it doesn't sound like many of the companies perform the necessary prep work.

My home is located in Michigan, and the "lawn" is currently made up of a mix of dirt, sand, and a mixture of crabgrass and weeds.

From what I understand the proper procedure is as follows:

1. Spray with herbicide to kill all existing foliage.
2. Wait 2-3 weeks, and spray any remaining foliage.
3. Wait 2-3 weeks for remaining foliage to die.
4. Rake all rocks, debris, and dead weeds/grass out.
5. Hydroseed company will come and harley rake/till the yard.
6. Final grade will be performed on the lawn.
7. 4-6" of top soil shall be laid down.
8. Top soil will be mixed ~5" down into existing ground.
9. Lawn will be hydroseeded.

What I am unclear is on what herbicide to use, and if I am missing any steps.

Any help would be appreciated.


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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #1 on: Thu August 03, 2017, 08:49:46 AM »
Hello Torque,

That sound like a good plan.  10 days to two weeks should be ok for the spray intervals.  I would suggest using Roundup or the equivalent.  It only affects growing plants and won't have any effect on seed germination.  I don't think you are missing any steps.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #2 on: Thu August 03, 2017, 03:47:09 PM »
It appears as though there are many variants of Round-Up? Is there one that is usually specifically recommended?

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #3 on: Thu August 03, 2017, 03:58:49 PM »
The primary ingredient in RoundUp is glyphosate.  Most of the variations I have seen were either in packaging or in products that were concentrated or ready to spray.  There are other companies selling glyphosate under different names and any of those should work.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #4 on: Thu August 03, 2017, 06:29:33 PM »
Torque - Don't assume the contractor you hire will do all the steps you have outlined.  You should have a written agreement so there can be no confusion or misunderstanding.

In lieu of placing "topsoil", you might check into having a couple inches of good compost applied directly to the surface.  Topsoil quality can vary based upon its origin and organic content. 

Good luck and post a few before, during and after shots.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #5 on: Sat August 05, 2017, 11:25:55 AM »
Thank you all for the help.

After doing more research into the herbicide it appears as though a post-emergent is proper selection. Based on my understanding, the post emergent will kill the existing crab grass and weeds, but will not affect new seeds(assuming a fair amount between spraying the herbicide and hydroseeding).

Is my understanding correct regarding this?

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #6 on: Sun August 06, 2017, 09:23:22 AM »
Yes, that is correct.  A post emergent will only kill plants that are living and doesn't affect seed germination.   
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #7 on: Mon August 07, 2017, 10:22:42 AM »
Do you have any experience with this product? I believe it meets my needs:

https://www.roundup.com/smg/goprod/roundup-weed-grass-killer-super-concentrate/prod70348/

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #8 on: Mon August 07, 2017, 11:22:52 AM »
I don't do any spraying of herbicides professionally but have used that exact same product here for years and it would do exactly what you want and be perfect for your needs.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #9 on: Thu September 21, 2017, 10:34:44 AM »
Team

Just an update hydroseeding is going to complete today.

Now I need tips for fertilizing. Given it is nearly the end of September, what is recommended to be applied in 4-6 weeks?

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #10 on: Thu September 21, 2017, 11:09:25 AM »
Well because of the time of year my thoughts are to do something a bit different than I usually recommend.   When I hydro seed I am using a high phosphorus starter fertilizer  16-45-8.   I usually suggest following up in about 5-6 weeks with a high nitrogen fertilizer which stimulates top growth, turns the grass a dark green and makes it grow so fast customers are stuck with mowing the grass every time the wind blows.

High phosphorus fertilizers are considered starter fertilizers and also considered fall fertilizers since building the root system helps the grass stay healthy through the long winter.   Since you will be fertilizing late in the year using a high phosphorus would be something that should be a good choice then in the spring hit it with a high nitrogen fertilizer.   We will see what some of the others think.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #11 on: Thu September 21, 2017, 02:50:03 PM »
Based on other things online I was considering a 16-16-16, but I'm worried about using this with winter so close. The other factor I was considering was using about 600lbs of milo to treat before winter instead.

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #12 on: Thu September 21, 2017, 05:27:00 PM »
Your hydroseeding contractor should have provided you all the information you need for a successful grow.

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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #13 on: Thu September 21, 2017, 07:25:37 PM »
I think a 16-16-16 would be fine but do a light application.   I don't have an experience with the milo but that should be fine if you want to go that way.
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Re: [Help] New Construction and Prepping for Hydroseeding
« Reply #14 on: Thu November 09, 2017, 12:01:15 AM »
Yeah, Its a good plan. I also think 16-16-16 would be the correct combination.

 

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